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[page 873] anything he would call his attention to it by cuffing him. Ans. No, I never saw him do the thing in my life. I have heard him ask him to do things frequently. Ques. When you have been working inside have you had a key. Ans. Have keys all the time, ever since I have been at work there this last year; had them when I was at work there before on the new wing. Ques. Have you been in the habit of going in and out at entirely irregular intervals. Ans. Yes. My business has been such that I would have to go into all the wards; they would not know when I was coming at all. I had no fixed times of going. Ques. During these years have you ever seen any cases of illtreatment of patients. Ans. Yes, I have seen one case; that was within a year, one of the attendants illused a patient by the name of Eaton. He came up into what they call the veranda. I as at work in the lodge painting, happened to look through the grates and Eaton came up from the bathroom, could not say what he had been doing, and Proctor the lodge boy kicked him three or four times. I told him to stop that or I would report him. Proctor was working his notice and his notice was about out.