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[page 926] Ques. Do you think it very surprising that in that institution with 400 patients and over 40 attendants, that difficulty might occur with a troublesome patient and not have been known to the superintendent for half an hour or an hour. Ans. Yes, because it is evidence that it had been wrong a long time. Ques. A mark on the wrist. Ans. Evidence that there was unkindness. Ques. Whether you deemed it strange that the superintendent did not know of that thing that might have occurred within half an hour. Ans. That he did not know of that class of things and that somebody from outside had to find it out. Ques. Did you ever see a case of abuse of a patient by an attendant. Ans. No sir. Ques. Have you any doubt that if any case of abuse had come to the knowledge of the superintendent that the attendant would be discharged. Ans. No sir. Ques. Now as to the time when you went into the hall and found the patient with face disfigured and eyes black, who were the attendants in the hall at that time. Ans. I am sure Miss. Smiley was one and ^I think Miss. White the other. The attendants went away and