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[page 945] Ques. You speak of this as a private conversation with him. You had several with him did you not on that subject? Ans. Yes, on that a casual remark would come in about it, but no lengthy interview. Ques. Do you mean to say you communicated this to him under a pledge or understanding of confidence, or the reverse? Ans. No, sir. Ques. Didnt you ask him at one of these interviews ^on that subject whether he was a mason Ans. I dont remember of that you allude to coming up, but it may have as a casual remark. Ques. Did he not reply to you that whether he was or not, if you had any thing to say that you didn't want known to anybody else that you had better not say it at all? Ans. No, sir. On one particular jocular way more than anything else, he said no. I said, "that makes no difference. I know you want repeat it on this point." And he says no to that. Now there is