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1176 Q. ( cont.) make frequent visits to the asylum. A. The usual visits that the trustees make, as many as five or six times a year, and special visits of the trustees for particular purposes. I remember once I was summoned over by Gov. Dingley for a special purpose. Q. How long a time did you remain at the hospital? A. Usually stayed one night sometime two at our monthly visits, at the annual and semi-annual visits we stayed often longer. When I first went onto the board, we had no semi-annual visits after a year or two we had semi-annual visits, a visit in June usually where we talked over the matters of the hospital and inspected it. At the annual visit in Dec we always had all the bills and everything to attend to so that we could not look into the internal management of the hospital as well as we could at another time. Q. During these various visits extending over 8 years did you take pains to inform yourself with a good deal of minuteness as to the methods of the hospital and its management? A. I did especially after a year or two. Q. Did you visit other hospitals? A. On one occasion I visited two hospitals in Mass, one in Rhode Island, and one in New Hampshire. During the time I was president I