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[page 376] churning? was he in the ward, as far as you know? A. He used to visit the wards. Q. At this particular time, I mean- Mr. Pettangall: The committee are not aware of the name of the gentleman who is asking these questions. Dr. Butler: introduced the gentleman as Mr. Hall of Malden, Mass. who had been retained as counsel. Mr. Hall then proceeded with the examination Q. At the time the attendant was churning Mc'Carty, as far as you know, do you know that Dr. Neal knew anything about it? A. No, sir, I dont. Q. Was he in any way responsible for it, As far as you know? A. I dont know that he was. Q. Did he countenance it in any way? A. No, sir, he never countenanced any thing of the kind Q. Did you ever report it to him? A. No, sir. Q. Could he have prevented it in any way, as far as you know? A. I dont know how he would. Q. It was something that was done in the hall, done quickly and in temper? A. Yes, sir.