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[page 887] Ques. State just how it occurred. Ans. Swift struck a patient by the name of Marshal Spaulding and they immediately clinched and went down together, and Spaulding grabbed hold of Swift's nose with his teeth. I and the other attendant went and got then apart as quick as possible. Ques. Both attendants were in the hall, how far off. Ans. Perhaps 20 feet. Ques. Was that anything which it was possible to avoid by any human precaution. Ans. No sir. They were both epileptic patients, subject to sudden outbreaks. Ques. Do you know who sit Merrill's shoulder. Ans. My impression is that both Dr. Harlow and Dr. Neal were present. Ques. State whether you ever did wither abuse or choke a patient in any way whatever. Ans. No sir. By Mr. Fall. Ques. Do you know an attendant named Vaughn. Ans. Yes sir. Ques. And a patient named Hill. Ans. Yes sir. Ques. Were you in the dining room when Vaughn got Hill down and the doctor came and caught him. Ans. I was in the dining room when the scuffle began.