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[page 795] Q. To whom did you report it? A. To the supervisor, Mr. Hamilton Q. Was that before or after the other case? A. It was at the same time. I reported them both together Q. You reported the attendants name with the case did you? A. I did. Q. You dont know what steps Hamilton took about it? A. No sir. Q. Have you any doubt but that if either of these cases had come to the knowledge of the superintendent that the man would have been summarily dealt with? A. I know they would have gone. Q. When you said before that they would have gone " up the lane" you meant discharged? A. Yes, sir; because I dont think the officers would allow any such thing at the institution. Q. Have you ever heard, during all the time you have been there, the term "churning"? A. Yes, I have. Q. Did you ever hear the term mentioned in the presence of any officer of the institution? A. No, sir. Q. No reason to suspect that they ever heard