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[page 902] Ques. You did not say to Howard Smiley that you had given a patient a licking and had knocked off the cap of one of his fingers in doing it. Ans. No sir. I never had any talk with Smiley about it. Ques. Is that the only time you ever had any squabble with a patient. Ans. I have a number of times. Ques. Did you know a patient named Allen. Ans. Yes, a man that was brought there from State Prison, larger and heavier than I, ugly. I think he was brought there a year ago last spring. Ques. Did you ever choke him. Ans. No sir. Ques. Did you ever find him singing in his room. Ans. Frequently hear him make a noise after he goes to bed; he is noisy at times. Ques. What time does he usually go to bed. Ans. All the way from quarter to 9 to 9 o'clcok. Ques. If at any time when Allen was singing you have been in to stop him. Ans. I never have. I heard him one night, I went to the door and asked him what the matter was, he said nothing, I went back to bed. I never went afterwards to see what the matter was. Ques. You never put your hand on his throat. Ans. No sir.