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[page 714] to make some garment out of cloth that was not easily torn and that it should be sewed on them, and they should have attendants enough to be able to change that clothing when needed. They would have to be changed often of course. That is merely an opinion. Ques. If such a garment could be devised and suggested by you, you have no doubt it would be gladly adopted if it was practicable. Ans. No sir. Ques. Have you ever suggested to the trustees any plan of that sort. Ans. Not of that sort. Ques. Unless you can hit upon that you must either adopt the present system of putting them into the lodges or adopt the old system of the bed strap or straight jacket. Ans. Yes sir. Ques. Do you not deem the lodge system as at present practiced much the more humane of the two. Ans. Yes sir. The only thing that has troubled me in regard to that system is the cold. Ques. Have you ever examined the lodges by night Ans. Yes sir. Ques. How late at night have you ever been to examine. Ans. I have been there at 11, and examined with reference to the temperature. Dr. Oaks went with one. Ques. This was last March. Ans. Yes sir, before the