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[page 765] Q. Did you ever see an officer present when he was being pinched? A. No, sir. Q. Any attendant present when he was pinching him? A. No sir. Q. Did you think it was any use to report this abuse to the officers? A. No sir Q. You say this wash dish from which Haines drank was a dish in which the men were in the habit of washing their oily hands? A. Yes, sir. Q. What kind of oil? A. A little of most every kind, land, petroleum, and occasionally a little sperm. Q. And they washed their hands in that and threw the water out and gave that insane man that oily dish to drink from? A. He did; yes, sir. By Mr. Morrill: Q. Did you see it more than once? A. Dont think I did Q. Ever see him pinch him more than once A. Yes, sir Q. How many times? A. I could not estimate the number; several. By Dr. Eaton: Q. Was it a common custom? A. A common