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[page 836] He went to talking with Peter, asked him if he knew who he was. I think Peter called him Zenas, then when he was talking with one he told me he was his brother. Ques. Did he seem perfectly satisfied with his brother's condition. Ans. I did not hear any complaint. I think it was a year ago last summer that he was there. By Mr. Pettangall. Ques. I understand you to say that Haines was turning a little forge; what strength is required to turn this crank. Ans. About the strength it would take to an ordinary coffee mill. Ques. What sort of tongs do you use about such a forge; heavy like blacksmiths tongs. Ans. No sir, small tongs. By Mr. Fall. Ques. When Zenas Haines was there was Peter's breast open. Ans. Yes sir. Ques. He did not say anything about it. Ans. Not to my knowledge; he did not to me.