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lodge without having at least two or three of those five attendants you have named with him. Ans. I do not think he could. Ques. Was ever that man carried to the lodge when any attendant, either at the lodge or anywhere else, had him down and jumped upon him or put their knees or anything else in his stomach. Ans. Never in my presence. Ques. Were you generally one of the attendants who went with him. Ans. Most always. Ques. You are now night watch. Ans. Yes sir. Ques. During all the time you have been there, have you ever known a case of violence by an attendant upon a patient. Ans. No sir. Ques. Was Edward Holway and Edward Kimball with you the latter part of 1879, the particular time you speak of when the man was carried to the lodge. Ans. Mr. Holway I am positive was and I think Mr. Kimball was. By Mr. Fall. Ques. Do you know Mr. Craig. Ans. I do. Ques. When was this time you speak of, was there over any other time when 4 or 5 of you took him to the lodge. Ans. Several times during 1879. Ques. Did you ever see Mr. Craig down there at anytime.