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[page 657] was he at all in a state of fury or paroxysm? A. No. He was rolled right up, and his head laid nearly between his legs, on his knees, rolled right up inside of the straw sack, making this noise. I had heard him a number of times and knew him by his voice. Q. Doing no violence at that time? A. Seemed to be mourning. Q. Seemed to be despondent?A. No. He came out of the sack and onto his feet and was shivering. Q. If he had been in the quiet condition in which you found him when you gave him the additional clothes he would not have been out into the lodge would be? A. He was put in there because he tore his clothes, as I supposed. It was pretty hard to tear the burlap sack. Q. This was a burlap sack filled with straw and he had crawled into it? A. Yes, sir Q. Do you know any thing about the pipe that heated the lodge at that time? A. I dont Q. This was in the night was it? A. Before I went to bed. I was down in the hall for some thing. It was after they were locked up at night, after 9 oclock, between 9 + 10.