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[page 832] He always takes in in good part. I have painted his face. When he has been at work on pipe with me, he would get a little dull, I have often put my finger in the paint disk and touched him on the nose or cheek. I have seen others do the same thing, think I have seen Mr. Wilson do it. I have seen Peter laugh at it so that he would shake his whole body. I saw him go and look in the glass and say he looked 10 years younger. Ques. That whole thing was done as a matter of sport. Ans. Merely sport, understood as such by him. Ques. It has been testified that when you wanted him to do anything, you were in the habit of cuffing him to get his attention. Ans. I never struck the man, in my life, with anything. In passing him when he would be standing in a peculiar position, I have taken my hand towards his face, but never reached the point of his face. Ques. Has Herbert Perkins been there as fireman Ans. He came there during the summer past the middle I think; he has been about the building ever since. Ques. You have the entire charge of the heating