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[page 890] could have been subdued without using him roughly. Ques. Had the wristers been put onto Hill before. Ans. Quite frequently. Ques. He called upon you to assist him and you did that without any trouble. Ans. Yes sir. Ques. Did Vaughn in any way put his knee into Hill's stomach or upon him after he was down. Ans. No sir; he just merely held him down. Ques. Where was Mr. Motherwell at this time. Ans. He was sitting at the farther side of the dining room. This hall opened immediately into the dining room. Motherwell was sitting there during the whole of it. Ques. Could he see or not. Ans. I should not say that he could see. There was a table and more or less chairs between him and the men that were in the scuffle, and also a considerable wide door boarded up. I should say the lower half of it. He kept his seat during the whole of it. It was not one of his patients. By Mr. Fall. Ques. Were you there the last time that Vaughn took him down. Ans. I was there at the time he got him onto the floor; was not right there when he first attacked him, I went to him. I was in the dining room when