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[page 895] violence towards that man in carrying him to the lodge. Ans. No sir. Ques. Did you ever see Mr. Craig there when he was carried to the lodge. Ans. I do not remember ever seeing the man there; he worked about there; he may have been there and I not see him/. Ques. Did you ever see a case of abuse of a patient. Ans. I saw one one of the attendants, Florin Chadwick was choking a man. I do not know the occasion of it. The case was reported and Chadwick was discharged the next morning. Ques. Was there any injury done to the patients any marks left. Ans. I do not think there was. Ques. Is that the only case of abuse or violence that you ever saw towards a patient. Ans. The only one except my own. Ques. Have you ever heard the word churning used there, as applied to any mode of abusing patients. Ans. Never. Ques. Was this attendant discharged on the report of the patient himself. Ans. Him and other patients. By Mr. Fall. Ques. Did your parents intercede for you to go back.