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1247 A. ( cont.) have seen him in straw, that is all he would keep. Q. Did you see him in there a couple of weeks before he died. A. I used to see him everyday; he was not in my charge at that time. Q. Did you ever see him nights? A. I used to see him evenings, at 9:00, see him at his door, I never used to go in. Q. Can you say that you saw Palmer in this lodge in the night after 6 o'clock within a couple of weeks before he died? A. I have, have been to the door and talked with him. Q. How late will you put it, anytime within a week or fortnight before he died? A. From 8 to half past Q. You will not say that Palmer never was during these tow weeks so cold that he shivered in the lodge, but that you never saw him so? A. I never saw him so Q. After you had taken Whidden off you met Motherwell as you were coming back? A. Yes that is the first I saw him Q. Are you positive that Mr. Motherwell was not round where he could see the scrimmage