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1111 A.(cont.) patient bruise another. I saw a patient by the name of McCarthy strike a patient by the name of Murch. I was the attendant , was not near enough to prevent it. Q. Is that all that was done to him, just struck him once? A. I separated them. He was very violent by spells sometimes, usually quieted right down in a few minutes. Q. Did you ever hear the word churning? A. I think I have never hear it used in the sense it has been used before the committees. I think I have never heard it used in any sense as to the treatment of patients. By Mr. Baker Q. How many years have you been there? A. About three years and a half By Mr. Hall Q. Do you know a patient by the name of Woodman who pushed a man down that got his hip broken? A. I think he did, think the mans name was Whitney Q. That is the only flagrant case of a patient being hurt by another patient that you know of? A. Yes sir