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[page 124] what I thought. I says, "there is no discipline here." And I had the same statement to make to Dr. Oaks just before I left. And I had no different one to make all the time I was there. Q. You say with the exception of these three you cannot remember any names? A. I dont know. Q. If you could we would like to have you give them so the committee can perhaps see the men themselves. Dr. Butler: You have asked that question a dozen times that he cannot do it Witness: I cannot say even the names of those who were there when I left. If you had the names all here and read them over to me I could tell you quick. Q. But I unfortunately haven't. To whom did attendants apply when they wished to leave the hall, for instance? A. The law says supervisor. I had nothing to do with that, no power. Q. Have you in repeated instances given to attendants permission to leave the halls? A. No, sir. Q. Halls under your charge? A. No, sir, not unless