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[page 313] he might as well settle up. Q. He offered to go himself? A. Yes, sir. Q. Were you there when Dr. Neal came? A. Yes, sir Q. Was there any change in this frequency of punishment of patients by attendants after Dr. Neal came? A. Yes, I think there was. Q. For better or worse? A. I dont think there was so much of it. Q. Do you mean to say that so much attention was given to them by him that they could not do it without his knowledge? A. Yes, sir, he used to make his trips more irregularly, and they didnt know when he was coming in. Q. He made his trips round at irregular times? A. Yes, sir, times a day and evenings etc.; different times a day so you would not know when he was coming. Q. He was liable to come in at any time? A. Yes, sir, that is the way it was when I was there Q. How was it with the other officers? did they come at irregular times? A. Dr. Harlow always made his trip in the morning before breakfast; never went through the halls at any other time very often without