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[page 123] A. Sometimes they were. One or two were discharged on my report for some overt act. If I found a man abusing a patient in any way and I reported him to the Dr. I dont know but that he always discharged him; I think he did; anybody found directly abusing them. Q. There were cases of abuse by attendants on patients that occurred in your wards? A. Yes, sir Q. How many of those do you remember? A. I couldn't say as to that Q. Out of the 40 or 50 who were there during your period of administration, and nearly all of whom you say you complained of and reported at different times, can you name one of the individuals you say you reported except the two Chadwicks and Knowles? A. I cannot remember. I never expected anything of this. I took no account of the names. Q. You have treasured these instances pretty carefully in your recollection? A. No, sir, no particular instance about it. It is only the general statement. When I came to that hospital to let them look at me, I may say, to see whether they would take me or not, I went round the hospital, and the trustees asked me afterwards