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[page 407] spoke about the clothing, the first time I saw him that night. Q. You hadn't seen him on your first round that night? A. I dont remember whether that was the first or second. I never used to visit the rooms unless it was necessary. Q. Was it a part of your duty to visit the lodge? A. I used to go into the lodge hall every hour, not into any room unless by orders of Dr. Harlow. Q. When you saw him first was he in the lodge hall or in the room? A. In the room Q. Did you go into the lodge hall? A. Yes, sir Q. And the doors into the rooms from the hall were open were they? A. They were not open. Q. How did you see him? A. I didn't see him until after he spoke to me. Q. Spoke to you as you went along through the hall? A. Yes, sir Q. When you went through the halls the first time that night you say he didn't speak to you? A. That is the first time he spoke to me; I don't remember particularly whether it was the first or second.