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[page 524] was a custom for supervisors to- Q. No, sir, my question I want you to answer Dont you know it was your duty, under that rule to have stopped him? A. No, I don't Q. Do you say it was not? A. I dont think it was my duty. Q. Rule 3 says, supervisors "well see that the patients are preferred to go to walk, ride, or to be out for other purposes." Now if a patient was about to be take out, which in your judgment was not fitted to go, do you mean to say it was not your duty to stop it, and that you didn't stop it? A. Nine times out of ten there is not an attendant that knows when the patients are taken out. They go in there and take them out and not say a word to an attendant or anybody else. Q. Dont know it? A. No, sir, I dont know it. They do not come to me and ask me who shall go out or not. Q. They can take them out without permission from you or an attendant can they? A. Yes, sir, they do do it and always have done it. And you let any attendant object to a patient going out and they were reported at the officer.