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[page 590] Q. What time is in season for breakfast? A. It is about 7 oclock, I think, Q. In the winter. A. A quarter of seven Q. Have you any rule that obliges attendants to rise at any particular hour? A. There is no written rule. It is a good deal of work to go over some patients and get them ready for breakfast Q. How long would it take? A. Half or three- fourths of an hour. Q. Average of 3/4? A. Yes sir Q. Do they, or not, when they get up, generally open the door? A. Yes, sir. Q. And there is such a noise that patients would not be likely to rest? A. There is no great noise. Q. Do many patients sleep after that? A. No, sir. Q. Get up? A. Some of them do. They lie in bed if they choose. There is no compulsion about getting up By Mr. Hall: Q. I understand you that patients can get up when they please to? A. Yes, sir Q. Don't force any of them up? A. Not until