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physician, Dr. Sanborn. I had charge of what is called the male wards, and waited on visitors. Some times there would be a great number of visitors, from early in the morning until pretty well towards five and six o'clock. Some days there would be hardly any. But it would keep me out from my galls. It seemed to me that I ought to spend more time with the patients. Anybody else could wait on visitors just as well, and let me attend to those duties. Dr. Sanborn's duty was to attend the dispensary, which does not require a great length of time. Of course each one has records of patients to make. The women were getting up very early in the morning, as early as the men who worked out on the farm. And it didn't seem to me it was necessary to get them up so early in the morning by an hour and a half. Pepole [people] do not rise so early anywhere else. I could see no imediate necessity for it. There certainly could be no necessity for it. Dr. Butler: How early? Dr. Neal: I don't remember. It varies. In the summer they get up earlier. It changes with the seasons. I also asked that in the