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[page 199] one myself. Q. Do you think he would have been retained if I had known it? A. No, sir; only just long enough to pack up his [dunage?] and leave. Q. Why did you want all these years before you reported to this Dr. Butler? A. He asked me about it and I could not lie to him. Q. Then if I had asked you about it you would have told me the same? A. Yes, sir, I should have told you the same story and been glad to. Q. You never mentioned it to the visiting committee? A. No, sir. Q. No member of it? A. No, sir Q. You have been there five years? A. I think it is five years. Q. And these are the only instances you have ever seen? A. Yes, sir, these are all the two instances of the kind I have ever seen. Q. What was the patients name? A. One was that little black, and the other was Tim, that Irishman, in the brick ward. Q. Do you know where he came from? A. I dont know where either of them came from. Q. You do not know that he was sent there