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[page 243] Q. Or any of them? A. No, sir Q. Did this occur while Dr. Neal was in charge of the male wards? A. I think it did, yes, sir Q. Was the Hill patient violent? A. Not a very violent patient. Some times he was a little ugly. Q. Was he ugly or violent at the time of this occurence? A. I suppose there must have been some thing the trouble with him; they put the straps on him. Q. The first you saw they were putting straps on to him? A. Yes, sir. Q. And that is done in cases when the patient becomes violent? A. Yes, sir. Q. Where was that? A. That was in the middle south Q. Not at meal time? A. No, sir, before breakfast Q. What was the attendants name there? A. Vaughan Q. After the attendant put the straps on him did the man resist? A. No, I dont think he did resist after the straps were put on Q. Did the patient do anything after the straps were put on? A. Nothin that I know of Q. Nothing whatever? A. No, sir. Q. He remained quiet? A. He was on the seat I think. Q. Was he in any way violent at the time