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[page 616] said by Dr. Harlow at the time? A. I had a good deal of conversation with Dr. Harlow, but those were the main points I could bring in without some heresay testimony. Q. Was any thing said about being of one family? A. Not by Dr. Harlow to me Q. Is that all? A. That is all. Of course the Committee have no interest in any thing the old treasurer might have done there, because that is a matter past and gone. He was discharged by the trustees in 1871 after this defalcation and shortage came out Q. Then your idea is that there was a defalcation and Dr. Harlow knew of it for 2 years and kept it covered up? A. That is the facts By Mr. Baker: Q. That is the conversation with Dr. Harlow which you have just detailed to the Committee? A. That is all I could properly being in according to your ruled. Q. Were you a member of the investigating committee of the Council on that point? A. I was