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"A GLUTTON FOB 'l'RU
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"A GLUTTON FOB TRUTH"[bold]
 
To the Editor of The Herald:
 
To the Editor of The Herald:
I read your article in a Neent
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I read your article in a recent issue about Kenneth Roberts, author of "Arundel," which article was headed
iasue about Kenneth Roberti, author
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"A Glutton for Truth." I also read his very interestlng novel, "Arundel," when it came out last winter. At that time
of "Arundel," which &rticle wu headed
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his interpretation of the character, in-telligence, and habits of the Abenaki Indlans impressed me as not so truthful as drawn to fit the story. Lately I have read "The Candle in the Wilderness" by Irving Bacheller in which Mr. Bacheller gives a very dif-ferent conception of the Indians of colonial times. It is truce Mr. Bachel-ler's Indians were Iroquois and Algon-quin and his story of an earlier date.
"A .G lutton tor Truth." I allo read hl.J
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Mr. Bacheller gives, in the back of his book, references to his authorities for his historical facts and his rather
very interestlnr novel, "Arundel," when
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unusual description of his Indians. Mr. Roberts does not quote any authorities. Presumably Mr. Roberts did consider-able research work before writing his book, but the main historical facts of Benedict Arnold's famous and fruitless expedition were first fathered together  
It came out last winter. At that time
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and published in July, 1901, in "Ar-nold's Expedition to Quebec," by John Codman, 2d (Macmillian Co.)This
his -Interpretation of the character, intelligence, and bablts of the Abena.ld
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work is a historical narrative. . . .  
Ii;idlans impressed .
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Omitting the rather absurd love story from "Arundel" and a few other fic-tional scenes, the book becomes a rep-lica of John Codman, 2d's, earlier nar-rative. Codman also give many au-thorities for his facts. He made the trip personally when the route was not so much of a wilderness as in Arnold's[?] time, but much more so than in Ken-neth Roberts's.
u probably not
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The over-exertion from that trip in 1896 brought about Codman's death Aug. 31, 1897, so he never saw his book
so truthful as drawn· to ftt the story.
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published. It was ably edited by Mark DeWolfe Howe. Codeman was president of class of 1885 at Harvard and on the varsity football team and, although admitted to the bar without even going to a law school, he made real estate brokerage his vocation.
Candle in the
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WILLIAM COOMBS CODEMAN.
Wilderness" by I
 
1g ~eller 1n
 
wlilch Mr . .Bacheller l'IV!II a very dif•
 
terent conception of the Indians of
 
colonial times. It. Is true Mr. Bai:h~ller's Indians were Iroquois and Algonquin and hill story ·ot · an earlier date.
 
Mr. Bacheller gives, in the back of
 
his book, •references to his authorities
 
tor his historical facts a.nd his .rather
 
unusual descrlptfon· of his Ind'l ans. Mr.
 
Roberts . does not quote a.ny authorities.
 
Presumably Mr. Roberts did considerable research work before writing hill
 
book, but the main historical facts of
 
Benedict Arnold's famous and fruitless
 
expedition were first gathered together
 
and published In July, 1901 , In "Arnold's Expedition t.o Quebec," by John
 
Codman, 2d (Macmillan co.), This
 
work Is a historical narrative. . .
 
Omitting the rather absurd love story
 
from "Arundel" and a. few other 11.r.tlonal scene,, the book: becomes a replica of John Codman, 2d's, earller narrative. Codma.n alao gn,es many authorities for his facts. He made the
 
trip personally when the route was not
 
so much or a wilderness as In Arhoi""S
 
time, but much more so than in Kenneth Robert.s's.
 
The over-exertion from that trip in
 
111lfl-- brought about Codman's death
 
ftg.31, 1897, -so.he never saw his book
 
published. It was ably edited by Mark
 
De\Volfe Howe. COdman was president
 
of his class of 1885 at Harvucl...and on
 
the varsity football team and , a l ~ h
 
admitted to the bar without even go~.
 
to a law school, he made real estate
 
brokerage his vocation.
 
WILLI.AM: COOMBS CODMAN,
 
 
Boston, Aug. 20.
 
Boston, Aug. 20.
  
me'
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Boston Herald
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August 22, 1930
  
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FROM AUTHOR OF "ARUNDEL" [bold]
 
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To the Editor of The Herald:
Boston fl.,. .................
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William Coombs Codman, in a letter published in you Mail Bag of Aug. 22 in effect accuses me of plagiarizing John Codeman's "Arnold's Expedition to Quebec" in my novel "Arundel."
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His grounds for this charge seem to be, first, that his distinguished relative wrote a history of the expedition; and second, that I quoted no authorities for the historical background of my novel.
ugust 22 , 1930
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I have always felt that it is somewhat out of place to append a long bibliogra-phy to a work of fiction; and I conse-quently did not do so in "Arundel." But since Mr. Codman raises the point, I here set down a partial list of authori-ties used in its preparation. The full list, together with my maps and the manu-script, has been in the hands of the Maine State Library, Augusta, Me., since last November. The able reference libra-rian of that institution.  Mrs. Marion Cobb Fuller, has been kind enough to send the full list to those sufficiently interested to ask for it, and will, I am sure, be glad to do so in the future.
 
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Adams, James Truslow: "Revolution-ary New England."
FBOM AUTHOB OF "ARUNDEL"
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Anburey, Lt: "Travels Through the Interior Ports of America, 1776-1781."
ro the Editor of The ·Herald:
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Arnold, B.: "Journal of the Expedi-tion to Quebec."
WWlam Coombs Codman, in a letter
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Arnold, I. N.: "Life of Benedict Arnold."
published In your Mall Bar of Aug. 22,
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Bourne: "History of Wells and Kennebunk."
In effect accuses me of plariarizinir John
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Bradbury: "History of Kennebunk-port."
Codinan's "Arnold's Expedition to
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Codeman, J: "Arnold's Expedition to Quebec."
Quebec" In my novel "Arundel."
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Davis, M.L.: "Aaron Burr."
His grounds for this charge seem to
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Dearborn, Henry: "Journal of the Quebec Expedition."
be, first, that hils distinguished relative
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Drake: "Tragedies of the Wilderness.""Indians of North American."
wrote a history of the expeditlo · and
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Fobes, C.: "Account of the Quebec Expedition."
second, that I quoted no authorities for
 
tbe historical background of ~ iad+'el.
 
I have always felt that It la somewhat
 
out of place to append a. long bibliography to a work of fiction; and I consequently did not do so In "Arundel." But
 
since Mr. Codlnan raises the point, I
 
here set down a partial list of authori·
 
ties used In its preparation. The tull lfst,
 
together with my maps and the manuscript, has been In the hands of the
 
Maine State Library, Augusta, Me., since
 
last November. The able reference librarian of that Institution, Mrs. Marlon
 
Cobb Fuller, has been kJnd enough to
 
send the full list to those sufficiently
 
este 5QJ.Sk for it, a.od will, I am
 
su ,
 
g ad ~ do so In the future.
 
Adams. James Truslow: "Revolutionary New Bnrl&Dd,"
 
Anburey, Lt.: "Travels Through ~e
 
Interior Ports of America, 1776-1781."
 
Arnold, B.: "Journal of the Expedition to Quebec."
 
ArnoM, I. N.: "Life of Benedict
 
Arnold."
 
Bourne: "History of Wells and Kt!n·
 
nebunk."
 
Bradbury: "History of Kennebunk·
 
port."
 
Cadman, J.: "Arnold's Expedition to
 
Quebec."
 
Davis. M. L.: "Aaron Burr."
 
Dearborn, Henry: "Journal of the
 
Quebec Expedition."
 
Drake: "Tragedies of the Wilderness."
 
Drake: "India.ms of North America."
 
Fobes, C.: "Account of the Quebec
 
Expedition."
 
 
French, Allen: "Siege of Boston."
 
French, Allen: "Siege of Boston."
Hanson, J . w.: "History of Gardiner
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Hanson, J.W.: "History of Norridge-wock and Canaan."
and Pittston."
 
Hanson, J . w.: "History of Norrldgewook and Canaan."
 
 
"History of the Kennebec Valley."
 
"History of the Kennebec Valley."
Haskell: "Journal of the Quebec Ex·
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Haskell: "Journal of the Quebec Ex-pedition."
pedltlon."
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Henry, J.J.: "Account of Arnold's Campaign."
Henrv, J . J.: "Account of Arnold's
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Leland, Charles Godfrey: "Algonquin Legends of New England."
Camoalgn."
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Lincoln (Gov.): "The Abenaki In-dians."
Leland, Charles Godfrey: "Algonquin
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Lossing, B. J.: "Field Book of the Revolution."
Legends of New England."
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Maine Historical Society; collections: Vols. I and VI, containing material on "Arnold's Expedition" and the "Abenaki Indians."
Lincoln (Gov.): "The Abenakl Indians."
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Melvin, J.: "Journal of Arnold's Expedition."
Lossing, B . J. : "Field Book of the
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Minnegerode & Andrews: "Life of A. Burr."
Revolution."
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Morison, G.: "Journal of Arnold's Expedition."
Maine Historical Society ; collectlom:
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Parkman, Francis: "Montcalm and Wolfe."
Vols. I and VI, containing material on
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Parton, J.: "Aaron Burr."
"Arnold's Expedition" and the "AbenakJ
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Pope, Saxton: "Hunting With a Bow and Arrow."
Indians."
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Remich: "History of Kennebunk."
Melvin, J .: "Journal of Arnold's Expedition.''
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Senter. I: "Journal of Arnold's Ex-pedition."
Minnegerode & Andrews: "Life of A.
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Smith, Justin H.: "Arnold's March from Cambridge to Quebec."
Burr."
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Thayer, S.: "Journal of Arnold's Ex-pedition."
,
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Ventromille (Fr.): "The Abenaki In-dians."
Morison, O.: "Journal of Arnold's
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Williamson, W.D.: "History of Maine."
Expedltlbn."
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Willis. W.: "History of Portland."
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There is one point, in view of Mr. William Coombs Codeman's groundless charge against me, that should be made clear.  John Codman's "History of Ar-nold's Expedition" makes pretty good reading; but for accuracy it does not compare with Prof. Justin Smith's "Ar-nold's March from Cambridge to Quebec."  In fact, Smith devotes about one-third of his history to pointing out the inaccuracies in Codeman's book---inaccuracies doubtless due to the fact that Codman died before he had revised it for publication.
Pal"kman, Fran~ls: "Half.century of
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Mr. Codman seems to suggest, in his letter, that John Codman, by writing a history of Arnold's Expedition, has for-ever barred authors from further use of that expedition in fictional form.  This suggestion, I feel, is too absurd to re-further comment.
conflict."
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KENNETH ROBERTS.
Parkman, Francis : "Mont.calm and
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k Beach, Me. Aug. 22.
Wolfe.''
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Boston Herald
Parton, J . : "Aaron BU\'l'."
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August 25, 1930
'
 
Pope, Saxton: "Hunting Wlth the Bow
 
and Arrow."
 
Remlch: "History of x~nnebunk."
 
Senter, I.: "Journal of Arnold'a llxpedltlon."
 
.
 
Smith, Justin H.: "Arnold's March
 
from Cambridge to Quebec.''
 
Thayer, S.: "Journal of Arnold's Expedition.''
 
Ventromllle (Fr.): "The Abenald In.diana."
 
Williamson, W. D.: "History of
 
M•lne."
 
Willis. w.: "History of Portland."
 
  
l
 
  
There Ii one Potnt, In ~
 
William Coombs COdman's
 
~eat':
 
chatge arainst me. that shoulcr
 
e
 
clear. John Codman's "Btst.ory
 
nold's Expedition" makea p
 
, reading; but for aocurac:, 1' d
 
compare with Prof. Jdlt1n Bmltlt'I
 
nold's March from OambrJdae to
 
Quebec." In fact, Smith devotee about
 
one-third of his history to pointlnr out
 
the Inaccuracies in Oodma.DW bootInaccuracies doubtless due to the fact
 
that Codman died before he had ~
 
It for publication.
 
._ ._
 
l\4'r. Codman seema to aune,t, in ma
 
letter, that John ~ by ~ •
 
hiltory of Arnold's Expedition, has forever ba1Ted authors from further use of
 
that expedition In ftctional form. Thia
 
sua«estion, I feel, ii too absurd to refurther comment.
 
KENNETH ROBERTS.
 
Kennebunk Bea.ch, Me., Aui. 22.
 
  
Bos t on Herald
 
P. J.gust 25 , 1930
 
  
"ARU
 
To the Editor of The Herald:
 
After readlng \\11th great pleasure
 
"Arundel," Mr. Codman's letter of AUi,
 
20 was of Interest. There are some
 
things In the wonderful book which·
 
a mused me:
 
Mr. Rob~rts's beans, for
 
example, were baked in an entirely dff•
 
farent way from old-time bean.s."'Mi,
 
gfster Hep.sibah stood guard over the
 
beanpot to make sure that the water
 
never fell below the level of the top•
 
most bean." My gra.ndmother'a- atoriet
 
carry me back 50 year., . She alwa)'ll
 
said that the reasori beans were so
 
I much better baked ib the brlck oven
 
wRs because the even heat and lent
 
j cooking required no itddltlon of ,water,
 
1 after the first filling.
 
Then, t.oo, l'.'erl!
 
the oven opened constantly, tt WQUld
 
soon lose Its heat. Aga~"My sl.tter
 
Cynthia stood by llfle stove • . . . . ,
 
adding water to the beans." Why tht
 
stove? I have been In many.old houaea,
 
and linov, ma n:v taleti of old-time co::iklng, but not one of stoves. I think
 
Mr. Ford would pay a gOQ(I price fot
 
one of Mr. Rob?;:t3';; stoves.
 
There are several m!ntlona of toa
 
ma toes stP.we:i vrith a ftavorlng of all•
 
spice and vlnl!ga.r. I would like to
 
ow If tomatoes "'~re used common}y
 
in the 18t:!l century. I supooaed tlut
 
then they were called "lo,·e-applea,•
 
and not though~ of aa much rood,
 
MRS. CAROLINE C. LAMPING 881:.1.
 
H,-mpt.on, Aug. 26.
 
  
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"ARUNDEL" [bold]
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To the Editor of The herald:
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After reading with great pleasure "Arundel," Mr. Codman's letter of Aug. 20 was of interest.  There are some things in the wonderful book which amused me:  Mr. Roberts's beans, for example, were baked in an entirely dif-ferent way from old-time beans.  "My sister Hepsibah stood guard over the beanpot to make sure that the water never fell below the level of the top-most bean."  My grandmother's stories carry me back 50 years.  She always said that the reason beans were so much better baked in the brick oven was because the even heat and long cooking required no addition of water, after the first filling.  Then, too, were the oven opened constantly, it would soon lose its hear.  Again---"My sister Cynthia stood by the stove. . . . . . adding water to the beans."  Why the stove?  I have been in many old houses, and know many tales of old-time cook-ing, but not one of stoves.  I think Mr. Ford would pay a good price for one of Mr. Roberts's stoves.
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There are several mentions of to-matoes stewed with a flavoring of all-spice and vinegar.  I would like to know if tomatoes were used commonly in the 18th century.  I supposed that then they were called "love-apples," and not thought of as much good.
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MRS. CAROLINE C. LAMPING SHEA.
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Hampton, Aug. 26.

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"A GLUTTON FOB TRUTH"[bold] To the Editor of The Herald: I read your article in a recent issue about Kenneth Roberts, author of "Arundel," which article was headed "A Glutton for Truth." I also read his very interestlng novel, "Arundel," when it came out last winter. At that time his interpretation of the character, in-telligence, and habits of the Abenaki Indlans impressed me as not so truthful as drawn to fit the story. Lately I have read "The Candle in the Wilderness" by Irving Bacheller in which Mr. Bacheller gives a very dif-ferent conception of the Indians of colonial times. It is truce Mr. Bachel-ler's Indians were Iroquois and Algon-quin and his story of an earlier date. Mr. Bacheller gives, in the back of his book, references to his authorities for his historical facts and his rather unusual description of his Indians. Mr. Roberts does not quote any authorities. Presumably Mr. Roberts did consider-able research work before writing his book, but the main historical facts of Benedict Arnold's famous and fruitless expedition were first fathered together and published in July, 1901, in "Ar-nold's Expedition to Quebec," by John Codman, 2d (Macmillian Co.). This work is a historical narrative. . . . Omitting the rather absurd love story from "Arundel" and a few other fic-tional scenes, the book becomes a rep-lica of John Codman, 2d's, earlier nar-rative. Codman also give many au-thorities for his facts. He made the trip personally when the route was not so much of a wilderness as in Arnold's[?] time, but much more so than in Ken-neth Roberts's. The over-exertion from that trip in 1896 brought about Codman's death Aug. 31, 1897, so he never saw his book published. It was ably edited by Mark DeWolfe Howe. Codeman was president of class of 1885 at Harvard and on the varsity football team and, although admitted to the bar without even going to a law school, he made real estate brokerage his vocation. WILLIAM COOMBS CODEMAN. Boston, Aug. 20.

Boston Herald August 22, 1930

FROM AUTHOR OF "ARUNDEL" [bold] To the Editor of The Herald: William Coombs Codman, in a letter published in you Mail Bag of Aug. 22 in effect accuses me of plagiarizing John Codeman's "Arnold's Expedition to Quebec" in my novel "Arundel." His grounds for this charge seem to be, first, that his distinguished relative wrote a history of the expedition; and second, that I quoted no authorities for the historical background of my novel. I have always felt that it is somewhat out of place to append a long bibliogra-phy to a work of fiction; and I conse-quently did not do so in "Arundel." But since Mr. Codman raises the point, I here set down a partial list of authori-ties used in its preparation. The full list, together with my maps and the manu-script, has been in the hands of the Maine State Library, Augusta, Me., since last November. The able reference libra-rian of that institution. Mrs. Marion Cobb Fuller, has been kind enough to send the full list to those sufficiently interested to ask for it, and will, I am sure, be glad to do so in the future. Adams, James Truslow: "Revolution-ary New England." Anburey, Lt: "Travels Through the Interior Ports of America, 1776-1781." Arnold, B.: "Journal of the Expedi-tion to Quebec." Arnold, I. N.: "Life of Benedict Arnold." Bourne: "History of Wells and Kennebunk." Bradbury: "History of Kennebunk-port." Codeman, J: "Arnold's Expedition to Quebec." Davis, M.L.: "Aaron Burr." Dearborn, Henry: "Journal of the Quebec Expedition." Drake: "Tragedies of the Wilderness.""Indians of North American." Fobes, C.: "Account of the Quebec Expedition." French, Allen: "Siege of Boston." Hanson, J.W.: "History of Norridge-wock and Canaan." "History of the Kennebec Valley." Haskell: "Journal of the Quebec Ex-pedition." Henry, J.J.: "Account of Arnold's Campaign." Leland, Charles Godfrey: "Algonquin Legends of New England." Lincoln (Gov.): "The Abenaki In-dians." Lossing, B. J.: "Field Book of the Revolution." Maine Historical Society; collections: Vols. I and VI, containing material on "Arnold's Expedition" and the "Abenaki Indians." Melvin, J.: "Journal of Arnold's Expedition." Minnegerode & Andrews: "Life of A. Burr." Morison, G.: "Journal of Arnold's Expedition." Parkman, Francis: "Montcalm and Wolfe." Parton, J.: "Aaron Burr." Pope, Saxton: "Hunting With a Bow and Arrow." Remich: "History of Kennebunk." Senter. I: "Journal of Arnold's Ex-pedition." Smith, Justin H.: "Arnold's March from Cambridge to Quebec." Thayer, S.: "Journal of Arnold's Ex-pedition." Ventromille (Fr.): "The Abenaki In-dians." Williamson, W.D.: "History of Maine." Willis. W.: "History of Portland." There is one point, in view of Mr. William Coombs Codeman's groundless charge against me, that should be made clear. John Codman's "History of Ar-nold's Expedition" makes pretty good reading; but for accuracy it does not compare with Prof. Justin Smith's "Ar-nold's March from Cambridge to Quebec." In fact, Smith devotes about one-third of his history to pointing out the inaccuracies in Codeman's book---inaccuracies doubtless due to the fact that Codman died before he had revised it for publication. Mr. Codman seems to suggest, in his letter, that John Codman, by writing a history of Arnold's Expedition, has for-ever barred authors from further use of that expedition in fictional form. This suggestion, I feel, is too absurd to re-further comment. KENNETH ROBERTS. k Beach, Me. Aug. 22.


Boston Herald August 25, 1930



"ARUNDEL" [bold] To the Editor of The herald: After reading with great pleasure "Arundel," Mr. Codman's letter of Aug. 20 was of interest. There are some things in the wonderful book which amused me: Mr. Roberts's beans, for example, were baked in an entirely dif-ferent way from old-time beans. "My sister Hepsibah stood guard over the beanpot to make sure that the water never fell below the level of the top-most bean." My grandmother's stories carry me back 50 years. She always said that the reason beans were so much better baked in the brick oven was because the even heat and long cooking required no addition of water, after the first filling. Then, too, were the oven opened constantly, it would soon lose its hear. Again---"My sister Cynthia stood by the stove. . . . . . adding water to the beans." Why the stove? I have been in many old houses, and know many tales of old-time cook-ing, but not one of stoves. I think Mr. Ford would pay a good price for one of Mr. Roberts's stoves. There are several mentions of to-matoes stewed with a flavoring of all-spice and vinegar. I would like to know if tomatoes were used commonly in the 18th century. I supposed that then they were called "love-apples," and not thought of as much good. MRS. CAROLINE C. LAMPING SHEA. Hampton, Aug. 26.