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[page 364] Q. Had they committed the same offence? A. They committed the same offence, yes, sir. By Mr. Baker: Q. What hour of the night of this sleigh ride did you leave? A. Six or half past I think. Q. In the evening? A. Yes, sir Q. What time did you get back? A. It was one or two oclock I should think. Q. Did you all go together? A. Yes, I think we did. There was quite a party of us that went in one big team and there were some single ones. Q. Go from the hospital in a team? A. Yes, sir Q. Several single teams and one large one? A. Yes, sir. Q. That was contrary to the rules of the institution was it? A. It had been the practice; it had always been done there for the four years and a half I was there Q. Did you have permission to go? A. Yes, sir, from the supervisor Q. The supervisor went with you did he? A. Yes, he did Q. And you and he were both discharged? A. Yes, sir Q. You had printed rules did you not? A. Yes, sir. Q. It was a part of your duty to know them?