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A. I cannot say. Q. How often would it be? A. I cannot say. Q. In the vicinity of freezing point, 30 or 40 degrees, some thing like that? A. I should say it was a good deal of the time in the winter time. Q. What year was that? A. That was in 1872, 8 years ago; it would be in 72 or 73. Q. Were those put into the lodge violent patients? A. No, sir, not all. Q. For what other purposes were they put there? A. If they were filthy they were put in the lodge. Q. Or violent? A. Or violent, yes, sir. Q. Those two reasons were they? A. Yes, sir. Q. Did the lodge have any furniture in it? A. No, sir. Q. No knowledge about that? A. No, sir. Q. At what hour in the morning did Dr. Sanborn visit the wards? A. Generally about 9 or 10 oclock.