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[page 589] Q. And what time at night to retire? A. They are all supposed to retire about 9 o'clock. All supposed to be in their rooms at 9. Q. You say that rule is practically kept? A. The attendants at that hour, at the ringing of the bell, rise and open the doors of the rooms. Q. Do you mean to say 6 o'clock? A. At half past 5. Mr. Baker: Are you inquiring now about the hours of rising of attendants or patients? Dr. Butler: Of patients. Q. I mean to ask about the rising of patients. You understood me so? A. I thought you were talking about attendants. Q. Well, how was it about patients? A. They get up all the way from a quarter of 6 to half past 6. Q. In the summer? A. In the winter. Q. What time in the summer? A. They get up any time from half past 5 until 6. Q. These are patients? A. Yes, sir. Q. What time are the patients in winter required to rise? A. They are required to rise in season for breakfast.