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[page 328] about 6 months in a year? A. No, sir i should suppose not. Q. Did you ever see it at freezing point in the lodges? A. There never was any thermometer in the lodges. Q. In your judgement, did you ever see it at the freezing point in one of those lodges A. Yes, I think I have. Q. While they were heated by the flues? A. Yes, sir. Q. And the pipes? A. All there was then was the flues. Q. You swear to that do you to this Committee? A. That is my judgement. Q. Do you testify that men were ever ordered to be put naked into the lodge hall at 30 degrees, or freezing point? do you give that to this Committee on oath? A. I know they have been ordered to be put in there in as cold night as there were in the year; I dont know how cold it would be. Q. Will you testify upon oath to this Committee ^hat you have been directed by officers in that hospital to put men naked into the lodge halls, at or near freezing points? A. Yes, sir, I think I have.