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[page 486] the wrist, each wrist, and a belt passing through and fastened, round the body. Q. You have nothing of that sort there? A. Yes, sir, we have had those. I think there are a few there now. Q. In use? A. Havent been in use for some time. Q. Become disused? A. Yes, sir. A person might confine their arms to a certain extent, yet they have liberty enough to tear their clothing. By Mr. Hall: Q. You were speaking about the ordinary temperature in the lodge. Of course I do not suppose any body expects the Committee to believe that the lodge was not ordinarily at a proper heat. But one of the witnesses testified- the last witness I think before you- that one night he went there and found Palmer there, and it was cold, and so cold that Palmer was suffering. Now do you know anything about the temperature on that particular night? A. No, sir, I dont. Q. Now, one of the best proofs of a pudding is the eating of it, and one of the best