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[page 511] Q. How did they abuse them? A. Handled them roughly. I dont remember what kind of treatment, but I thought they were not fitted to be there, and told Dr. Harlow. Q. That the attendants who used them roughly ought not to be there? A. Yes, sir. Q. Can you make any estimate of how many such scenes you have witnessed? A. I could not Q. Were you cognizant of the fact that many patients were taken out to work? A. Yes, sir Q. That is one of the rules, to allow them to do it? A. Yes, sir. Q. And did you know whether there were many or few that went out to work all day? A. No, I dont. The attendants in haying generally took out a lot of men to rake hay. Dr. Butler: I am not speaking of this under the head of an abuse, but only to learn the fact of how much they worked. Q. You say they staid [stayed] all day? A. In the afternoon generally all the afternoon. Q. Any feeble patients taken out? A. I dont remember but one case; the attendant didn't take