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[page 587] Q. You know it only from hearsay? A. That is what Mr. Hodgkins testified here. Q. I don't remember that he said he went precisely at 6? Mr. Baker: After 6. Witness: Then I certainly was there. Mr. Baker: He said he gave permission about 6 o'clock to the others to go. Q. Then it is simply a question not of truth and veracity, but of fact between you two, whether you were there or not? A. Yes, sir. Q. Did you ever speak with Dr. Sanborn about the case? A. I think it was mentioned. Q. To Dr. Sanborn? A. Yes, sir. Q. Did you consult with the treasurer about it? A. I think the matter was spoken of with him Q. Was it really gone through? A. In what respect? Q. Discussing the care of Mr. Hodgkins? A. I remarked to both of those gentlemen that I didn't know any thing about it until the next morning, that anybody was about; and I thought it was about time to straighten them out a little. Q. Up to this time had Mr. Hodgkins been a faithful attendant so far as you knew?