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[page 143] know as I do. Was he under you or not? A. He was not under me quite; I could not say that he was under me. He was an officer there in the institution. Q. Was it not for you to give directions to the supervisor? A. I could give directions to the man, and he received directions from Dr. Harlow. Dr. Harlow would frequently give directions to the supervisor, and I knew nothing about that until I saw some thing done. Q. Isn't that as a rule right straight through in the matter of cleanliness, didnt you have the right to order the supervisor to do what you saw fit in the wards? A. Yes sir. Q. Haven't all the points which you have spoken of as having occurred in that respect, occurred in the wards of which you had charge? A. I didn't have charge of them, not complete charge. Q. You know what I mean. It is not worth while to waste time in quibbles. You had charge of certain wards there did you? A. Yes, sir. Q. Now I ask you whether or not all these little things you have spoken of