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[page 198] Q. Not through Capt. Lakin at that time? A. No sir Q. Do you know why he should send for you? A. No, I don't know. Q. You never had stated the instance to any body? A. No, sir, I dont think I ever did Q. So he could not have any knowledge that you knew of any of these facts? A. No, I dont think he did. Dr. Butler: I knew that he knew of the trouble. By Dr. Harlow: Q. Do you know or think that the officers there would keep an attendant who abused a patient? A. Not a moment. Q. Not a moment? A. No, sir Q. And you didnt think it of sufficient importance to report it to anyone? A. I didn't allow myself to pass judgement on the importance of it; it was none of my affair at all. I got away from it as soon as I could, and left it. Q. Are not all who are there, guardians of the patients in one sense? A. That was not the trade I made. When I went there I went to do mason work, no to watch. Q. You have patients under your case? A. A good many outside. I never struck