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[page 218] Q. Tell the Committee what you saw. A. I was in the lower south one day, and the attendant called him into his room, he was going past the door; and the attendant called him into his room and kicked him in the mouth, or in the face; and the patient struck at him and he got up- the attendant was lying on his bed- and went out into the hall and took him down and choked him and pounded him, and what they call churning over there- put his knees into his stomach. Q. That is the common word among them is it, churning? A. Yes, sir Q. That is what it means? A. Yes, sir, what they call it over there, is churning. The attendant cut his face up pretty bad. He bled considerably. Q. Did you interfere in any way? A. No, sir; I told him I thought he had abused him ^about enough along to the last of it Q. That is to say, you mean you stopped him? A. Yes, sir, he stopped after I told him he had abused him enough. Q. Was the attendant reading in his room, or what? What was he doing? A. I dont remember whether