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[page 221] attacked afterwards at any other time by this attendant? A. No, I never did. Q. What was his general bearing towards him whenever you saw him? A. McCarty? Q. Yes, the bearing of this attendant? A. He was always considered kind of a rough fellow in the hall. Q. Did you know any thing of the case of young Mr. Whidden? A. Yes, he was in my hall a short tie. and went from that into the hall- I think he went home through, and came back and they put him into the general hall, into the upper hall. Q. Have you know of any abuse of him? A. Yes, I did. Q. State the case to the Committee. A. He was eating breakfast one morning, and I think he struck an old man. The attendants grabbed him, took him down and choked him, and as they called it, began to churn him; gave him a good churning, and took him down to the lodge, and they did the same down there. Q. Did you see this yourself? A. Yes, sir Q. Was Mr. Whidden considered a violent man? A. I dont know as he was very violent.