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[page 553] Q. Well, used as a privy thoroughly and entirely? Was it not? A. Occasionally, yes, sir. Could not help it. Q. Now the point is this: While the bath-tubs were in that condition and were continually used so, were there not large expenditures made for improvements outreach? A. Why yes, sir. I dont know how many years ago they overhauled all those bath-rooms. Q. Before you went away were they or not in that condition? A. Yes, sir. By Mr. Baker: Q. Did you use those bath-tubs yourself? A. No, sir Q. Use to bathe in the tubs yourself? A. No, sir, washed in my room. Q. Whether you knew of any such word in use over there, or any such habit, as has been called by witnesses here, "churning", during the 22 years you were there? A. I never heard of it until this summer. Q. Never heard it used until this summer? A. I dont think I ever did Q. Never heard the word or of the habit? A. I dont think I ever did. Q. From whom did you first hear it?