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[page 571] Q. Did you have no occupation of your own to take up your time? A. I think I had as much occupation as the general run. Q. Then you didn't have occasion to notice them much did you? A. When I was along where they were at work, and those were at work on the rise of land a few steps from my house, I could see them all day when I was round. Q. In the case of John Drummond who struck an insane man, ^did you know him to be an attendant? A. No, sir, he was not. He worked on the far. Q. A farm hand? A. Yes, sir. Q. Did you ever mention to any body connected with the institution that case? A. No, I didn't. Q. What year did that occur? A. I think that occurred four years ago last fall, the latter part of the summer or the first part of the fall. Q. With whom have you talked this matter over, how this institution was managed? A. No one particulalry. Q. Any body in general? A. People would ask me of this thing and that thing and I would tell them.