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[page 104] to be that the most of these were open. I ask you as far as you remember whether they were kept locked usually, day times, the whole of them? A. Yes, sir Q. Always locked on the mens' side? A. There was one door, the first door on the womens side that a good deal of the time was unlocked, but as a rule I found it locked. Q. What was that? A. The upper first womens' ward. Q. There are three doors there? A. I mean the door leading from the first into the dining hall Q. You have been with me, many times, taking me from the office up into the upper third? A. Yes sir Q. Do you remember several times of my saying to you, after we passed in through the first doors, "Dr. you need not go any further; it is a long walk; the attendant will let me through, and of your having stopped and I passing on to those very doors you speak of and calling for our attendant and waiting, and you waiting to see if I would get through, and no