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Q. And you explained to him as best you know about it I suppose A. I did. By Dr. Butler Q. How long ago was this A. I don't know; soon after I went to the institution. Q. Tow yeas ago A. I think it is 3 years in May since I first went to the hospital. By Mr. Baker: Q. Do you remember one occasion when Dr. Butler came into your ward through the private was or back stairs? A. Yes I remember. Q. Where does this entrance lead from and to A. It leads from the street up into the building Q. By whom is it used A. That is used by any one that cares to go out that way, by the attendants Q. Any attendant who cares to go our or in that way A. Yes sir. Q. There is an outer and an inner door A. Yes sir. Q.