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fifteen dollars; whatever it is, without giving notice? A. Yes, I know of one case. Q. Such a thing can be done then? A. It can be done in that way, forfeiting fifteen dollars if they sign the book to that effect. Q. You dont know whether this man went away and forfeited his pay? he might have gone away without it? A. He could have gone without it; I dont know but that he did. I never heard he did though. Q. Did I understand you to say that the insanity of this man Haines was such that he didnt know whether he was able to go out or not? A. I dont think he does, no. Q. Not able to tell whether he is fit to work or not? A. No, sir, I dont think he is. Q. But that his insanity was of such a character that he would go any how if he was called? A. Yes, if he was able to get them Q. Would not stop to ask any questions? A. No, sir Q. It is said there were pipes or flues under the lodges. What is the bottom of the lodge; stone, brick or wood? A. Wood, I think. Q. Do you know how thick it is? A. I dont. Hard pine floor. I dont know how much there