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[page 448] Q. Rather than restraint? A. Yes, I do. Q. There is a rule or a law in some shape by which the public, or whoever comes there, are allowed to come in, and you are obliged to show them through on certain days at certain times? A. No law about it that I am aware of. It has become a custom. Q. You are not compelled to do that? A. No, sir. Q. How often do you take visitors over it? A. It varies greatly. Q. In the summer time. A. That is owing to the season of the year. During what we term the vacation season, perhaps August and September we have a large number of visitors. Through June and July not so many; later in the fall not so many. During the session of the legislature a good deal. Q. These visitors see all kinds of patients that are there do they, except the very violent in the lodges? A. They do sometimes and some times they do not. What I mean by that, sometimes we take them through all of the wards. Of course they do not see every