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[page 662] Q. It is not impossible to prevent these abuses is it? A. If nothing is ever reported to the superintendent it would be impossible for him to get hold of the facts- if this secrecy is kept among the attendants. Q. These attendants are subordinates? A. Yes, sir. Q. They have heads, supervisors. Now with sufficient supervisors and with as good a board as possible of superintendents and assistants these abuses can be prevented? A. They can. Q. When did this radical change begin? A. I think since I left there. Q. When was that? A. Last May; that is, that I have noticed that change. Q. In what particular? A. From my experience there I could go into the halls and talk with the attendants and tell what kind of attendants they were. If the patients dodged them where they came along you could make up your mind they cupped them once in a while. If they mingled with them pleasantly, they are good attendants as a general thing. If they raised their hands to put it in his pocket to take