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[page 145] A. He and his wife together- you were not here before? Q. No sir, I was not. A. The first time I brought it out to the Dr. he and his wife were in his office. And the Dr. smelt of it and said there was nothing the matter with it. His wife took it and says. "O, yes, Dr. there is." There he tried again and said there was. Q. That was the difference in noses merely? A. I suppose that is what you would have to call it. Q. Did you bring that to the attention of anybody else except Dr. Harlow? A. No, sir. Q. Did you in any of the three instances you speak of, bring it to the attention of any body except Dr. Harlow? A. I brought it to the attention of Dr. Harlow first, myself, Q. Bring it to the attention of anybody else? A. I dont know that I ever did. Of course others came in. I said Mr. Richards was there, and Mr. Lakin was there. Q. Ever call the attention of Mr. Richards the trustee to it? A. Yes, sir; but I made the statement that he was unwell