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[page 226] long it was. Q. Do you remember the case of one Sleeper? A. Yes, sir. Q. What was that case? A. They had some trouble in the chapel, and a couple of attendants took him out and passed through the private in the lower dining room, and when they got into the lower dining room, one took him down and held him down, and the other took his foot and stamped it into his stomach. Q. Did you see that? A. Yes, sir. Q. What had he been doing in the chapel? A. I don't know; I think they said at the time of it- Dr. Butler: You need not state what they said, if you do we shall get into trouble. Q. Are patients taken out of the hall to work on the farm? A. Yes, sir, quite a number of the patients taken out. Q. And the laws says, "And return them to their halls at least half an hour before meal time." That is usually kept is it not? A. When I was in the lower south sometimes they didn't get in until after we sat down to the table to eat.