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[page 563] Q. One pushed the other off the sidewalk and slapped her face? A. Yes, sir Q. Which one was pushed off? Was it the patient that pushed off the attendant or the attendant the patient? A. The attendant pushed the patient off Q. How do you know? A. I will state that to you. Some 4 or 5 days afterwards I was coming down to the city, and I saw but a very few steps, I should say from that same place where this case happened, some patients with their attendants out. And in the mean time this lady was comin up the lane with some patients. I asked this man, "is that lady with a shawl on an attendant?" being the same on I had seen 2 or 3 days before. And he said yes, she was Q. I suppose you do not know the name of the man that told you? A. The man I did not know. He was an attendant, any way. I never asked the mans name that told me. Q. Now about this escaping patient. Do you remember the name of the attendant there? A. Yes, sir Q. What was his name? A. Henry Chamberlain